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The good and bad of Asus EEE

posted 2008.01.08 Tue

Like many other nerds, my wife got an Asus EEE for Christmas. (ok she isn't a nerd but her husband is). (Ok, maybe she is a nerd since I've been forcing her to using Linux for so long that she doesn't mind too much anymore).

The machine is solidly constructed and it just works. Everyone comments on how they first thought it was just a toy. It even came in handy over the holidays as a Balderdash game (we didn't have the actual game but there was an online version played on a mailing list that we used. We just passed the machine around, instead of the cards)

What to say about the keyboard? My daughter in kindergarten loves it. (She also loves playing frozen bubble, tux racer, tux paint and composing notes to her friends in OOo). My sister in law was able to type 70 WPM at 97% accuracy in the first two minutes of using it. (I wouldn't say she has small hands, but she normally goes 90 WPM).

Screen size? A 10 inch screen would be fine, but for an ultraportable machine, I'm not complaining. Plus there's vga out if you are using it for long periods of time.

My biggest gripe? Actually it's the operating system. No, I don't mind Linux. The simplified interface is fine. And everything just works, wireless, suspend, etc. Ok, it's not really the operating system per se, but the repositories behind it. Basically there are none, and because you are running a fork of a fork (Xandros is a fork of Debian, and the EEE distro is a fork of that), compatibility is a crapshot. And because it's not my machine (again this is my wives), I'm not going to go off installing stuff on it. My wife actually likes the gimp! And the EEE repos don't have this very common package...

It'd also be nice to have a more recent version of OOo (it's at 2.3.2 and EEE has 2.0??!!). I'd like to maybe put some of the dumb games I've done, or some of my brother's cooler ones on it, but that would probably breaking something.... It actually comes with python 2.4 and 2.5, so pure python is ok for development, but if you want to wrap anything that isn't included (or need wrappers) you are up a creek.

I'm sad that Ubuntu didn't jump on this. They've got the repositories and the community. And this would be great marketing to others. You could say, "hey, you can run this OS on your normal machine too". I realize there is eeebuntu, but I'm talking about out of the box, not having to worry about installing anything. I think ASUS and Canonical would both be a bit better off with their great products if they had partnered on this disruptive tech.

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1. Jason Scheirer left...
2008.01.08 Tue 11:38 am :: http://www.cleanstick.net/jason/

There's a variant of Ubuntu using XFCE jsut for this purpose:

http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:home


2. Matt left...
2008.01.08 Tue 11:52 am

Jason- I'm aware of the Ubuntu variant and mentioned it in my post. I'm talking about the out of the box experience. While installing ubuntu isn't hard, it also isn't something that my wife would do... Also if Ubuntu was included on the EEE it would be great marketing for Canonical. Having a distro that is compatible with the hardware doesn't give you that marketing or the exposure to EVERYONE who uses the computer.


3. Richard Jones left...
2008.01.08 Tue 4:32 pm :: http://mechanicalcat.net/richard

I'm also disappointed with the Xandros OS and can't wait to install Kubuntu.

Until those efforts mature *a lot* I'm not doing anything. Currently if you install Xubuntu rc3 (arguably the most mature *buntu effort of the lot) and then try to upgrade to rc4 or later, you need to *reinstall from scratch*. And also not everything Xandros can do is implemented. Not a nice experience. Yet.


4. Matt left...
2008.01.08 Tue 4:54 pm

Richard-Again, it is a shame Asus didn't choose Ubuntu from the getgo. If the current alternatives had EVERYTHING working from the install, I might push my wife to change.

It seems like Ubuntu and all the other distros should have some sort of hardware-specific postinstall script. Sort of like a thinkwiki/lspci/.config on steroids, where I indicate the hardware make model of my laptop/desktop and the setup script adjusts X/hibernate/webcam/kernel modules/etc.


5. Clint Savage left...
2008.01.09 Wed 5:37 am :: http://fedora-tutorials.com

You know, I am waiting on my second eeep c. (That's the name I've taken to calling it, thanks to Tene ). Anyway, I really liked what I saw, and it wasn't too difficutl to get the advanced desktop working with this machine which is currently running KDE 3. However, I plan on reinstalling the system and building out eeedora on it for F9. I've read a bunch about eeeXubuntu too, which is supposedly really nice as well.

See you on the flip side.


6. Kevin Mark left...
2008.01.10 Thu 12:36 am :: http://mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark

Why not make an xandros compatible build enviroment and build gimp deb packages for it. Then you can make your own xandros gimp debs and test it in a qemu xandros ISO?


7. Carl left...
2008.01.15 Tue 1:17 pm

Do you think of the upcoming Everex 'cloudbook' with Ubuntu based gOS will be a better option for out of the box with deeper repositories?